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Spot on, Neil. But one good thing about PUAs on TV falling out of fashion is that it will test which guys were really committed about improving themselves — they will stick to the system — and which ones jumped on the bandwagon just because it was fashion — these ones will drop out. At the end of the day, only people who are willing can make a change, reality shows or not.
I agree 100%. Ive noticed not just on all the t.v. shows but also in interviews with master pua’s. The news, interviewer, or whatever always make the game seem like some kind of bull shit lies people will feed just to get money. It makes me really pissed off that they dont even hear the whole story about it. Then they tern around and make it look like were just tricking women into sleeping with us. So dont worry, your not alone. Ive noticed too.
Thank you for pointing these issues out. I also believe that ‘Popular Society’ struggles to help men advance in the area self-improvement and in that struggle the personal lives of men (as well as those around them) become the casualties.
(P.S.:I have read The Game, Rules of the Game, and I am waiting for your new book to come out.)
P.S.S.: I understand that you are incredibly busy but I have some personal questions that I would like to discuss with you or someone who you could appoint to me. Any help would be great.
Thank You,
Max
It’s ridiculous. How can a person that want to socialize be a killer or something like that?
I agree with you Neil.
Hugs
I was searching for your book, reading a bit online, and now after google-ing your name Neil I found your site then clicked the tiny link at the bottom to come here and I find your blog.
I’m glad to hear you write about this topic as I purchased some materials from Mr. De Angelo and picked up a woman I knew I could have never attained and then went wussy.
However I never told anyone and I really wanted to tell some friends I knew who were also struggling with just being social.
Then I hear some news broadcast and read an article in STUFF magazine. Yeah! A magazine that is supposed to be for us and totally bashed Mystery.
I laughed because the examples given about the techniques were all wrong. I’d like to interview the writer myself.
Anyways, thanks again for the post, and I recently told a friend. Who then laughed but after explaining some ways of talking to women he started to open his eyes.
Happy new year!! You know Neil, there are two books in my life I’d consider life-changing. The first was the Foundation series by Isaac Azimov, which instilled in me a love for science and a passion for writing and storytelling that began at a young age and continues to this day. The second is your book The Game, which opened my eyes to a world I never new existed and offered me a path out of this endless wilderness of frustration with women. I have to admit, all of your stories can make an AFC very jealous, lol – I had an unsuccessful night with a date I dropped a lot of money on for New Years, and I tried reading some of your book after that but had to put it down because it was making me depressed. I’m not a kid anymore, I just turned 30 two days ago, but I feel like I’m failing in this aspect of my life. Azimov is dead, but you are very much alive and a person I would love to meet one day. If you have room for anymore women in your life, and a little time, I have a bunch of beautiful exotic dancers over at my place in Hollywood all the time that I would love to introduce you to, and maybe get to meet you in the process. Best wishes, and I hope this new year is even better than the last for you, if that’s possible :)
Evolve
You’re not Evolve! I’m Evolve!
Ha I know what you mean, but if you watched the latest episode of ‘Leverage’, without actually alluding to the art of pickup, one of the characters if guiding the other to help him pick up a high class woman. It was exciting to see it used in a powerful, positive connotation. Check it out
Man, I just spotted here by chance, but your words are highly wise.
First I had another impression of you and Mystery when I read The Game, but tonight you helped me with my doubts.
If you had to describe Mystery, and what he’s for you, what would you say ?
A PUA, like you, of course. A good wing, a business partner.
Would you called him a friend ?
Because friends are capable to talk about others things than sarging.
They like to go out of course, but sometimes just to have fun, share a good movie, play videogames or just hanging out with others. And there’s is damn nothing wrong with it, nor homo at all. Friendship is just as important as love.
Because even if the community learned you that love can be artificially generated on a woman, even if you’re one of the greatest PUA of the world, even if you find the perfect woman, one day, thing will go wrong. Maybe it will last only an hour. Maybe more. This day, you will need friends you can always count on. We are all for a defined time on this planet, it’s stupid not to enjoy our live. “They lose the things that are special
about them as individuals, they lose their direction in life and they lose their ability to relate normally to people”, as you said above.
Curious, but it makes me think about project mayem in Fight Club.
The scene where they all stand in front of a dead corpse, like robots.
They lost their humanity, their critical sense. And I dont’ want to be one of them. Now I know that I made the good choices and that it’s not my head which can’t pass the doors anymore. Hope my ex-wing will realise it soon.
Peace
A reader
PS : this article highed-up the opinion I already had of you.
Congrats, you really found what’s important in life.
Barney on how i met your mother, was using some magic displays of value….and kicked ass.
I’m just wondering what makes it so evil when there’s something out there for guys to learn how to socialise and pick up women, as opposed to the myriad ways for girls to go out and land a man?
It’s probably more of a reflection on society that the message of The Game seems to have got so garbled, that it’s not okay for men to seek means of self-improvement, yet it’s perfectly fine for women to wander down all manner of self-improvement avenues.
I guess it’s just harder to see anti-social women as being just as likely creeps, losers, and killers… but trust me, there are plenty of female sociopaths out there who are in need of as much help as the male ones!
Let me just start off by saying “The Game” is great. I’m maybe a little more than halfway through it and love every past page. It was given to me as a gift by a sibling for Christmas, along with your transcription of “the Mystery Method.” I haven’t gotten to TMM yet, but I can’t wait(I was told that your book was to be read first). The part with the mispellings preserved for authenticity made me laugh pretty hard. I also laughed much at the score chapter, especially the Librarian with pornstar skills section (it’s always the quiet ones). What I wonder about is how the whole PUA society still functions now that these books are out to the public and everyone can read up the the techniques? How do you drop game on women that know about you or at least know your routines? For example Min(I know how you handled that, but still). I Imagine that many women have already read your book, if not to build up their “game immunity,” just for fun… and most women I know are big on reading.
As for the whole TV show thing, yea, it is irritating, but so is having a thousand “Style-moggers.” Personally, “moggers,” are much much worse than a few badly done TV shows, at least the shows aren’t personal in nature. I like your idea for a pickup artist detective show, maybe you could put one into production, call it “PUA-Miami.”
Thank you for writing these books, I cherish the information,
James
I cannot understand what is wrong about the script that you seem to be pissed off with. Writers for television, cinema, books, advertisements etc, are always looking for new material or just material to attract attention to their show. The game, seems to me as a good imaginative way to write a criminal, funny, romantic or whatever story in both sides. Smart people (in these case viewers) would perceive that in a normal way. It doesn’t matter if they do not now how to pick up, it matters only that they have the appropriate understanding that what they see is fiction. It is NOT TRUE. My aunt who leaves in a village far from civilization as WE know it may not understand that this is fiction. Like a few years a go told a relative of us that she knows who is the killer in a tv soap opera an should notify about it the director!!! But in the end i do not think that The Game is targeted to 80years old in a village watching television.
I think there’s skepticism and misunderstanding directed towards a vast number of interests and communities, and especially those outside of peoples’ realities. Every time I see some news piece about improv comedy on the news I cringe. It’s always some idiots in neon colored shirts trying to be funny. It’s the same kind of thing – missing the forest for the trees, as the saying goes.
Craig Ballantyne is running into the same thing, and his response summed it up best. His exercises work but no one seems to believe that you can drop long cardio sessions and still lose weight and build muscle. He said ‘lucky for you guys no one believes this’.
Lucky for us indeed.
Very true what happens in the mainstream. A lot of these shows make this kind of plots because they want to increase the numbers in the audience chart.
Once I saw a show about you and the host was clearly frustrated in his tone of voice, and at the end of the day you were with your girlfriend and he was enjoing a good time with his laptop :)
Neil,
me personally don´t have anything against you guys, but i have to say that some guys really go to far, dating at the same time 5 girls,promising them the same things,about being loyal and honest,in order to have a sex, and this game is far away from from that. If the girl has to forgive all the lies that the alpha male told her about himself, and the lies which include also his thoughts and impressions he had told that girl, it is just sad to get someones love . There are out still people who can get really hurt, and who could see that also as a rough game, and start to make troubles. Love is to beautiful to be treated only trough sex, and seen as trophy, which has to be taken.This is not fair to the girls.Simply,because they are to passive roles in all this game.Than its not a game. Than it cant be fun.
I know that telling them, would maybe “break the rule” of the Game, but playing with someones feelings is not actually funny at all.
Regards,
alpha-female
Hi there,
I just wanted to say that I have JUST finished Neil’s book, The Game, and I must say I thoroughly enjoyed it! It was hilarious, but had a solid message at the end of it. Definitely one of the best books I’ve picked up recently.
This is a training-ground for sociopaths. ‘dropping game’ on women? How sad. If the only way you can relate to the opposite sex is by lies and manipulation, you are in need of therapy beyong ‘self-help’. I’m glad this book has been published, because it allows women to see the truth about manipulative, predatory, sociopathic men, and sort the grain from the chaff.
agreed and well said.
Alex~
Game seems to be misinterpreted far too often in today’s society as a manipulative tool used to seduce women. It is a lifestyle in my opinion not a tool, and as far as seducing women goes, I’d say you’re freeing them with a unique and original approach as opposed to the usual crap they endure in god knows how many bars. To those who believe this “evil” then perhaps you should consider the following:
1. This prevents many sexually frustrated men from picking up a gun and going insane, so already it fights crime.
2. It was invented to help people meet their future wife, and in the meantime, don’t you owe it to that future wife to get out there and become good at both social situations and sex?
3. It’s the 21st century, of all the things one can do to another, using a social situation to your advantage is hardly terrorism.
I’m sure there are thousands more reasons, but these are the ones that stand most clearly in my mind. Our society has changed over time, and right now, this is, survival of the smoothest.
HI Neil! I am your fan! You are one of the only guys who are really inteligent and serious about your body of knowledge in this “community”.
I am from Brazil, and here, probabily in mos tof thw world to, 90% of the PUAs are full of shit. Few are the guys who REALLY go out and try pick up consistently. They just spit these 100 rules of dating, blah, blah, blah….
Hope to see more posts form you,
Paulo Abelha
If you believe that game is all about manipulation of women and lies, then you have completely missunderstood what it is about. There may well be many men walking around professing to work game, but they probably are not, they are probably the guys who are manipulating women, lying to get them into bed, stringing nice girls along so they can have a hareem.
True game is about bringing the real person out from a hibernated shell. Its about learning to socially interact with other people, whether they are male or female. Its about understanding how to portray yourself in the best light at all times. Its about how to handle yourself in social situations. If along this path, you become attractive to women, (which invariably you will) then that is a bonus, and as long as you are totally honest and upfront about your intentions, then there really is no problem.
The problem with media, is that they are haters like all the other people. They put it down because they either don’t understand, or they are scared because people are coming out of their shells and challenging the established people.
Ultimately, I know that I have changed in a positive mannor since understanding game, and everyone I know has also noticed it. I have become a happy, social person, who feels comfortable in many situations that I would never have even dreamed I could.
I agree with you on that man. Until i found your book, i was the worst it gets. Overweight, low self esteem, Id only had sex with one girl, and i felt myself losing everything i liked about myself. Now, im losing weight, i have a real adult wardrobe, im talking to girls and strangers, and pulling numbers using a mix of techniques from the book and stories from my own past. I think that by targeting the community, these shows are actively seeking to destroy us or make us socially unacceptable like we felt before joining up. We need to have like a million PUA march or something lol. “I have a dream, that I can speak to any girl on earth and become the ultimate version of myself”
I belong in a different culture and my values differ from yours so forgive me if I don’t entirely understand the point of PUAs, I don’t believe in one-night-stands, or casual sex but I do agree with you that dating is a form of socializing for men and women both if you don’t take the leap nothing will happen for you. However not all people who know this stuff are good, humans are capable of incredibly good and horrifying things. We are flawed in every way, we are both docile and aggressive.
> Maybe we can make a show about a crime-solving team
> of pickup artists, who use their social skills to make connections
> and get information from people.
You mean like the James Bond Movies?
I loved the game and utilized what I learned to get more confortable with women. I did NOT use it as a tool for simply seducing women in a numbers game. THAT is the negative side of PUA that gets the bad wrap. Perhaps it is my age, not really wanting to build notches on my belt – just wanting one woman for love and I found her. PUA helped me ‘win’ her over. I may have had a chance with her before, maybe not. She is beautfiul, n=but not a supermodel, nor stripper or dancer. She is fun loving, but not a party girl. Not every man getting into PUA adopts it as a total lifestyle. Not every man who learns techniques uses them just for sex. Not every man who is PUA wants a 10 to somehow validate himself to other men (this is another negative about the community and one so many women have a problem with…both the 10′s and the 6′s…) and if we want to relate to women, we need to relate to them honestly. Maybe its my age, but a lot of what I got was PUA’s taking it to the extreme ARE losers who are now having a lucky streak… or making money off PUA – most men (especially the over 35 crowd) who learn about PUA are truly looking for a life partner. And as you said in your book Neil, PUA teaches you about pick-up, it has nothing to do with love… most women in my age range want love, not hook-ups with a man that shows value with other women. Its immature for these women and it has such a bad name now – or getting a bad name now – that a lot of these PUA’s (older) looking for love will be in worse shape. Someone has to write something that guides these men on what to do after they find someone… otherwise they are STILL lost souls and PUA has turned them into fools instead of confident men. Confident men have a purpose in life, they have a value system and they are not going to hide behind the skirts of women half their age just to impress other PUA’s… I realize PUA was not set up to hurt women, but a lot of PUA’s take advantage of their aquired skills and in fat, do hurt (rather unintentionally) women. We KNOW it. They KNOW it. The mature group I know have mostly moved on from PUA to areas where it takes much more skill. In fact, it has so much negative and somewhat immaturity associated with it that we have vowed to not let anyone else know we were PUA’s. Anyone can pick up a woman – what do you do down the road? Maintaining something long term – even for the rest of your life. That is what I have learned from my current relationship. Its about so much more than just routines and peacocking or negs or getting the hottest chick in the place. It about real connections. And real connections are not short lived. We are not just our biology. If we were, then we would be chasing 13 year olds. We are men (that would be a great name for a book designed to help men once they are IN a relationship, PUA minus the need for ‘picking up”…maintaining). I have my own skills set that I use to keep my woman happy and in turn, she is devoted and treats me like a king. SHe really listens to what I have to say and although I do not expect her to obey my every whim, for the most part, things go my way. No games. Well, games of a different sort. My routines are about being a good man toward her and mutually fulfilling one another core needs. This is showing her my value and in turn she consistently proves her value to me. I am no longer and AFC needing guidance with getting laid. I get laid almost every night and sometimes I have to ‘pull back’ from her sexually because she wants it all the time. we are in our later 40′s. How many married men in their 40′s have to hold their wives back? If they had married game, they would. Its so much simpler and I am so much happier with one HB7 (sometimes 6 sometimes 8 depending on her clothes, hair, and above all attitude) – but our sex life and overall relationship… 10… how many unemployed, looking for a place they fit, going home frustrated or trying to remember game to get the girl or compete with the Alpha males or get the Alpha male title other PUA’s can honestly say their relationship lives are a 10? Not many is my guess.
Another show, The Mentalist, did two pick up artist type shows in the last few months
Season 1: Episode 14: Crimson Casanova
CBI is called in to investigate the murder of a millionaire’s wife, Claire Wolcott, who was shot following a sexual rendezvous with her lover, a local pick-up artist, Paul Fricke. Paul has spent years … More…
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Episode 18 had a small part on a pick up artist, but he was just a side story and worked for a NLP guru, that was the main story…
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/the_mentalist/
After all, I dont know Neil, how u dealed with your fears, but everytime I sense there is people reading your teory (PUAs) around me, I feel that I cannot be one, that I am not original if I am doing the same as them, so I rather really prefer when less people knows the valuable all this stuff is, that in a way gives us (PUAs) the opportunity to be more special.
For me is ok, if the PUAs are disminished because what others think is not what matters, I think what should really matter is what you think about yourself and how good and attractive you think you can be, and in the case of the community, how much you can help your friends and anyone around you to become a REAL PERSON, and ENJOY LIFE.
anyway, THANKS 4 CHANGING MY LIFE NEIL
I just read this after I saw the new collegehumor video (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1913169)… guess it never ends.
I’ve been learning the whole David DeAngelo way for some time and branched out into reading the other books he talks about like Mastery by George Leonard and The Red Queen by Matt Ridley. I also got round to reading the Game. After learning how to improve myself and get better socialising and having fun with women (it is a game after all) it was initially a bit of a shock reading all about Mystery, PUAs and how you became so integral to the community. I had to read it again to get some perspective; it still tells a message of ‘don’t lose yourself’. I agree, guys can get so obsessed with the Game as with any thing else but I can’t see how that translates to a TV plot where PUAs become killers! Homeostasis, that’s all it is. Haters probably but maybe not all consciously.
As for improving guys, the Game is definitely a way to go. Call it learning how to dance the mating dance or the metaphor I like is that inside we are all good guys (of course we are) but our communication equipment needs updating, constant tuning and maintenance to make sure that we get that intrinsic goodness across most effectively. By involving yourself in the process the side-effect is a clearer stronger ability to communicate. But you can’t get that if you try it directly. There’s not path or journey so no process of improvement. Another of the universe’s cat strings.
The sorry thing with all this is that it was the loner guy´s way of getting back on track with life. Too bad every girl and guy knows how this shit work´s because of the explotation. And it´s back to square one. The loner´s still outside and nowanday´s even laughed at because he´s trying. And all people on the field are aware on what he´s trying to do. Now it´s just like before, but the mentality out on the field, yeah tougher than ever!
Thanks Neil!
Any advice, youv´e got my mail;)
When I first read the game it was like a bucket of ice cold water in my face. It was shocking in that I hadn’t seen it all before. It was clear to me that every sexual relationship I’d ever had started exactly this way. Also, I had made all the mistakes.
I can see why some people could think it’s creepy. But, they simply do not understand what it is. It’s not about manipulating women. It’s about becoming the man women naturally want to be with.
I want to thank you Neil for opening my eyes and allowing me to see the light.
Neil,
Who cares if people steal your ideas for their lame television shows that no one takes seriously. People take you seriously and everyone knows that you were the first to document this sort of thing.
Besides, the real genius of ‘The Game’ is not the advice. It is your ability to write a worthy piece of literature that appeals to the masses. I’m sure Stephen King wishes he could pull something like this off instead of that “McDonald’s hamburger—same quality control, same aftertaste, same steamed interludes” crap that he siphons to the sheep by the corporate keg.
Although I have my own views on how to seduce women-that differ vastly from yours-what’s important is that you have people reading; people that typically wouldn’t touch a book. Authors should be thanking you b/c you have spurred a whole movement that is going to make a lot of writers rich down the road.
Immensely enjoyed your book, especially since I used to live near the corner of Fountain and Poinsettia. Same stomping ground. Excited to hear what you have to say in your next books. Keep’m coming.
Christian
I found The Game to be a revolutionary book when it was released. There is a dark side to The Game, and a light side. It is the same with human beings. Learning The Game, whether from David D, David M, Neil, RJ, (who I’d discovered long before Neil’s book but found NLP to be rather manipulative) in most cases is a proactive, self-help type of thing to do.
These shows that rip on parts of it are as unfair to it as those who portray the priest as evil, as most television and movies do these days. Most priests are not evil, as we know. Most people who want to meet women are just MEN – period.
For women who bristle at it, perhaps it is because they dislike being “picked up” in any form. However, the truth is, they respond to what they respond to, as crazy or realistic as it might be. If they want to start dating nice guys then maybe they ought to respond to the guys who just say “Hi, my name is ….” with a handshake who then say “I think you’re pretty, let’s hang out.” But they don’t really respond to that very well, now, do they!?
In my own experience, the laws of PUA are no different than the laws of SELLING anything – when I sold timeshares they suggested we use “baby negatives” (the same thing as what you call NEGs – you didn’t create it – we were doing it to sell vacations years ago!) to put down the product – or the prospect, depending upon the situation. However, they also suggested the use of positive 3rd party stories that gave back the positive vibe to the prospect or product – at some point. Dating is quite similar to sales. Music also works this way. If you play some notes slightly dissonant (minor), that makes you feel discombobulated. However, when I then play notes on my sax that all flow within the scale (major) you experience the release of glory – in essence, you must face the darkness to see the light.
So, I’d recommend to people to learn as much as they can about themselves, become unique people, and repeat actions to gain confidence in ANYTHING they do in life. To become obsessed with anything – including how to meet women – is simply narcissistic and/or OCD and unhealthy in any form – no different than the person who ONLY shoots guns or ONLY reads the Bible or ONLY practices medicine all day long. Being a one trick pony is always boring. Don’t be boring, be Renaissance men (and women) and live life to the fullest!
First off, let me say that The art of picking up women in general is suppose to be taught to mean who lack social skills and such. Lessons to be instructed upon the lesser individuals with no understanding of psicology of women. The bad thing about it is, the world is being given more information on this and us PUas need to learn and re-strategise our game. And as Neil said, there are some who twist these concepts and pervert it!
Have to agree on this, it’s ridiculous.
I think alot of people don’t understand the power of social PUA skillz, so they try to “make fun” of it instead. A lot of guys I know say that these methods are bullshit and doesn’t work… Mystery / Style are hoax etc etc.
I’m from Norway and I don’t know how common PUA are here infact.
But those I have talked to don’t understand the theory behind it so they fuck up when they try out routines, …i don’t know.
Anyway I think it’s great what you are doing here, helping people like this – respect!
We should stick together and try to deal with this shit :)
Stay Cool Guys,
-Chris
It’s actually quite easy to see what is going on in the popular media if we just take step back and look at it from the above angle so to say. This is simply a backlash, the same as every medium has had to deal with over the course of history. Nothing gets accepted without going through the trial by fire first. It’s not even something that happens on a conscious level, it’s just something that happens, and it needs to happen. Nothing should be easy, nothing should be given. We will have to calmly weather this firestorm and show people that the learned ability to socialize is not something to be feared but studied.
We’re simply standing on a new thing in social evolution, this way of thinking has only been around for, what… about 20-30 years at the most? And the form it has taken on now is even younger. I agree, VH1 did good on depicting PUA’s. The Pickup Artist series, I feel, really showed what the whole thing is. But to expect everyone to accept this new social evolution so fast is optimistic at best. Things will come around, but it will take time. Neil, Mystery and all the other MPUA’s out there are pioneers on a new frontier. It’ll be we, their students, who will take it further and the ones who come after us will do the same.
This is great reading man, totally agree. It’s the same view people got where i come from, either you got or you don’t – tough luck if you don’t. It’s sad!
I was blown away to find out that there’s such a large group of people who are AGAINST the pick up community. I was linked by a friend of mine to this: http://www.scribd.com/doc/4113.....-community a great big bashing of the community as a whole as well as containing links to various sites like PUAHate.com which is dedicated to those who are bitter of our talents. Oh well I guess we fear most what we understand the least.
Here is a thought, evolve the purpose, change the name to match. Neil put this site together to find the next level right? Well the next level is not PUA. Its something else and there should be a new name for us. This doesn’t feel like a pick-up site.
This is ground zero. A chance to reconstruct. And we don’t have to be PUAs.
So wait, were not just tricking women into sleeping with us? … joke. Some person once told me that continuous development in the professional sector is not a must – it’s a requirement. It just doesn’t get into my head how continuous development in the social sector is suddendly something that you have to feel ashamed of. We ARE the social “nerds” aren’t we? We study for our social exams, and we get hate for our A level perfomances from those who fail.
I have actually used The Game as my opener. I would walk up to a set at a bar, ask them if they’ve seen that one reality show about the guy with the funny hat trying to teach other men how to pickup women. They recognize it right away, then I ask them what they think about it: whether it works or not. Since I’m coming in under the radar as nothing more than a curious person, they’re more than happy to chat along without even realizing that the person they’re talking to is actually running routines on them as we speak – the same routines that’s currently the topic of our discussion.
After minutes of chatting with them and doing everything correctly – from proper approach to DHV, from kino to neg – I pause and point out everything that I just did to them. More importantly, I point out how it worked. At that point, they try to convince me that they kept talking to me not because they fall for The Game, but because they thought I was nice. But regardless of whatever excuse they come up with, I simply shoot them down and tell them that I’ve made my point: it works.
It doesn’t end there. I then revisit the question that I originally raised, and ask them once again whether they think The Game actually works; considering that I just used it on them and they’ve seen it used on them, the feedback are just absolutely amazing. This is when I then defend The Game and reveal them the real concept of it all, about how it simply empowers shy men like myself to approach beautiful women such as themselves. (Again, by this time, they’d say something along the lines of “You? Shy?! Yeah right!” in an attempt to invalidate my claim).
I’m still kinda working on this concept, but I’ve learned that using the existence of The Game as an opener is actually a great way not only to open sets, but also find interesting people. The women who would actually entertain such discussions about The Game, you’ll find that they’re extremely smart and open-minded.
And of course, if they ever doubt you that it doesn’t work, you can always show them. By walking away and approaching another set, and talking about The Game to that new set. The old set will be watching you from afar, observing your every actions to see if you’re able to lock-in on your new targets… during which time, you can always look back at them, wave them off to come to you, and viola. You have just turned your previous targets into instant wingwoman, because they will be ready to either back you up with your new targets or side with them to crush you.
Women love having a common enemy (or a common friend).
World be aware we the society of pua’s are here and we are going to kill all the people we can find…
some people are just ignorant, let them live in there fantasy world…
Attracting others by learning to master yourself – brilliant.
Sad to be ridiculed for trying to be better men. When I see this stuff, it doesn’t faze me at all, because you outlined with intense clarity in the “good book” that this was going to happen, and how to react when it did. Many of my reactions are built right in now. When I hear someone poke fun at guys that want to be better with women, I “reframe” and put it right back to them. “Whats wrong with a man trying to be a better man? I’m interested in your opinion on that, please explain.”
Its a Big shotgun-bazooka Neg. On all of us.
They try to lower our value because the are Afraid of losing theis. Fear turns very quickly to Hate.
And its sex in the way… Its their daughters and wives they are afraid about.. reasonable, isnt it? they are thinking
“Maybe they will have sex with a man that hasn’t finished Harvard or doesnt have 1,000,000 dollars account… Maybe they will get pregnant… Maybe i cannot controll who my daughter will marry… Wait! what’s that Korean guy doing on my wife????”
Its kinda like a RSD technique used by TD on you Neil during Project Holiwood. No matter how much you try to prove the opposite, they will just drug you down.
But as in amonomyth, restriction and opposition exists for evolution
The community is always one step ahead and it has to keep on that way, so it cant be hit by the mudspillers
Also the last paragraph of your article Neil, anout encouraging other people, is the most important one.
Please write another article about, expanding this topic a bit on further
Neil, you are changing the status quo. The people in power believe in that men who work hard, get to play hard. What’s the point of all men can get any woman they want? The people in power want to keep all the women to themselves..
Or maybe those producers have had bad experiences with the PU community. Who knows?
A female perspective and what the negative media should learn.
The game is not a rape manual, it does not take away my right to say no. The thing is, I want to meet guys, go on dates and have great sex too, but I don’t and do you know why? Alot of guys who approach me have NOT studied or even attempted to improve their Game.
The last guy to approach me did so from behind at a bar, ‘Wayhey there gorgeous let me buy you a drink’ followed with a not so gentle slap on the arse. Another time a guy grabbed my arm with both of his hands as I was leaving my local pub, leaned into me and said ‘Where do you think you’re going?’ I literally ran away from him and it took all my self control not to react violently in both cases.
I would love a guy to start an interesting conversation with me, to have the confidence to speak to my face not my chest, to know when I’m comfortable putting their arm around my shoulders and to know when I’m simply not interested.
In short the game doesn’t not teach a guy to trick a girl into bed. It only opens up the possibility for her to like him enough to take it further. You are always going to get guys who are a douche and tries to manipulate girls into bed but guess what? These guys are everywhere and learning to deal with them is just part of growing up for women. It’s horrible, it’s unfair, but hey…life ain’t easy.
Sorry for the long post guys, it’s something that’s been stewing in my head ever since I read Neil’s book and realised I really wish more men in my area would make more effort. Now I just need to figure out how to turn what I’ve learnt from Neil to my own advantage. PUA guide for girls please?
Much love and success to you all
Dee x
I think it’s great that more women are reading this book and “getting the spirit” of the thing. But we all know that women cannot use the material the same as men so another ‘game” will have to be created and tailored to the women so that they can have more options. PUA in and of itself is not “wrong” or “immoral”. It is only a skill, like good salesmanship. In the long run, more people will get together and form good, long lasting, relationships……..isn’t that all we want anyhow? BTW, I prefer the term ” ladies man” as opposed to PUA.
I think there might be a commercial interest here. When i was awkward with the ladies, i spent most of my energy on making money and buying the newest computer hardware. Now that i’m sexually happy and socially respected, i couldn’t care less about the age of my notebook ;)
The intention might be as simple as that:
It’s fucking hard to useless junk to a successful, social and satisfied man. So keep him unsatisfied.
I loved the book “The Game”. It has the uncanny ability to suck you in and keep you there until the end. I could not put it down and just had to read it in one sitting. I think the best think to do is to learn all you can from as many people as you can. Then the hardest thing to do is to internalize all of the information and custom make your own version of “the game” that gets you the best results for you. And don’t worry about “what people think or say”…….their not the ones that have your best intrests at heart.Just decide that you will be who you will be in your heart and ……”go for it”.
“Its about learning how to Master yourself, Not control others!” amazing line which is sticking with me, as I delve further and further into your archives Neil. Gratzi for the amazing information. There is more gold on the subject of Mastering yourself in the book 18 Minutes by Peter Bregman
-Ares
in sex and the city tootip of t he book.