I wanted to share some thoughts on an experience I recently had. I received a call from two producers on the Dr. Phil show. They wanted me to come on and discuss The Game and the community with Dr. Phil. However, the more I talked to them, the more it seemed like a set-up. So I declined. Instead, they got two of the people in The Game to participate. And they did a few sneaky things, according to those who were on the show: 1. They filmed some guys sarging, but planted women with secret cameras...
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i was a victim of one of the unfortunate not nice guys that read the game and i don’t know how i’m even ever going to be able to trust anyone again. we were in a long distance relationship for a few months and then he moved here and lived off of me – with the promise that he was going to get a job and never did – until so many bad things started happening that i dumped him. now, only two weeks later, he is back on the personals site where we met with a cliche PUA name and profile, and i am just a wreck. if you can e-mail me back, i would be happy to tell you the whole story.. maybe you can shed some light on everything :)
I’m sad to hear nycgirl’s comment – but I do agree with Neil’s point. It seems to me women do have some advantages in the ‘Game’. When men are encouraged to learn better social skills and confidence, why should there be anything seedy about that?
One woman said to me how she approaches a man she likes: ‘I insult them – it usually seems to work’. Many women will instinctively ‘tease’ men they like – sometimes to extremes – sound like negging at all?
I can see how the PUA community could be portrayed in a way that triggers alarm bells for women. I guess it could be true that women in general tend to seem more sensitive to emotional situations and might feel they need more protection.* They might however look after each other somewhat better than their male counterparts too.
I guess guys and girls both feel as if their ‘side’ gets a raw deal in the dating game with or without books teaching you skills.
* being a slightly over-sensitive guy I wonder if this is true
“Dating” is fundamentally adversarial. The groups involved have divergent interests. Therefore any teaching that benefits one side will be opposed by the other.
It’s that simple.
This post sort of struck home for me, I definitely can relate. A lot of my female friends will come over and fumble through my kindle, my ebook collection, or book shelf and all three are filled with books like The Game, She Comes First: The Thinking Mans Guide to Pleasuring a Woman (which every man should read!), various NLP and Astrology books, Magic for entertainment, etc. and they always call me out on how creepy it is or how toolish it seems for me to be reading things like the game or Jugglers How to be a PUA.
It’s ridiculous. Men are just automatically expected to either have game, or be shunned off into socially awkward repression and anything else is creepy. BECAUSE NO ONE HAS EVER LEARNED ANYTHING FROM A BOOK RIGHT? RIGHT?
On the positive side, a few of my closer female friends have actually borrowed a number of them and after reading them came back and been like “wow you know there are tons of good points, it really ISN’T common sense.” and started fighting the good fight
I have a few of the books and have personally been ridiculed by coworkers for reading such books. These are the same types of girls who say “Stop looking, she’ll find you.” Which, sad to say, is a load of crap.
I’m what you would consider a baxter, but that’s slowly starting to change. It’s disappointing reading stories like nycgirl’s and other women of have been treated like sex objects and conquests, to the point where their whole perspective on the dating scene and men in general has been affected in a negative light.
Websites like thedirty.com certainly don’t help make things any easier for men and women.
People like to talk about what they think is morally wrong, with out even knowing why people do it.
as you said most of us are good guys, well I am an ass, but it’s okey ^^, I am a cute one =)
The first thing I did after learning this was get myself a relationship that lasted for 9 months, if people find that evil so be it.
But this things have helped me a lot in my life, not only with women but all things…
Thanks Neil